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[edit] arc2.0

And I see you've archived our lovely arc! /cry!

I go away for a couple weeks and you've erased all memory of me!

Well except for changing your name on your userpage, of which I heartily approve! --Ceridwyn 00:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about, the arc was never gone! It was merely hiding until you came back! It is by far the best-shaped conversation I've ever seen. Although I do like the coloured section header on this one!
So were you off purveying fine cherries again? Or perhaps great apples this time? Lovely bananas? Can't have been nearly as fun as conversation-arc building, that's for sure! → Spang ••••••• 01:52, 16 Feb 2007

It warms the cockles of my heart to see the arc's return :) Where have I been? oh, here and there. If you must know, the expansion for WoW came out, so yeah...but I'm lvl 70 now, and all is right with the world again. I gave up the purveying of assorted high-quality fruit to study Lua programming for WoW for 2 wks, and am now resuming normal student life :)
I am in agreement about the aesthetic value of the conversation, certainly the prettiest I've partaken in! And thank you ever so much for the delightful colouration on my user page! <3 --Ceridwyn 06:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome! Wait, are you trying to tell me there are things to do for fun that aren't uncyclopedia? I didn't know such a thing existed! Congratulations on becoming level 70, you must be proud!
You're welcome for the colouration too, I'm sure you would have done the same for me, should the situation ever require it! → Spang ••••••• 13:25, 17 Feb 2007

I'm not certain fun comes into all the time, more compulsion these days :)
I logged into IRC yesterday and was sad to hear I'd missed you by 20 mins :(
You know of course I'd repay the favour, or have I already? I've lost track of our tit-for-tat edits of each others userpages, can't tell who owes who anymore!
In fact if I was to be completely honest, I've forgotten which pink is the correct pink these days too, its been so long. IIRC i liked FF3399, but you were in favour of FF69somethingsomething? Perhaps you can shed some light on this :)
Also one day I'll get around to making an all pink signature for myself. the blue name and black time/date mar the pristine loveliness of my paragraphs.
I see a bit of a trend here, could this be arc 2.0?
<3 --Ceridwyn 22:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Compulsion, fun, it's all the same, right?
Aw, what are the chances? Though I'm usually on IRC at quite odd hours, and usually not at any regular times. So it's often quite difficult to catch me on it.
I can't remember who owes who what as far as the userpage edits go. Basically now I would just go by editing whenever I feel like it! Much easier than keeping track of things. I think the correct pink os the one that looks the best. There may be a reference to Ceridwyn Pink™ above, but I'm going to use my powers of advanced laziness to not look that up. I remember mine was more of a hot pink. Or something. I'm not really sure, to be honest, I though you were the one to keep the pinks in check!
Ah, a pink signature would be rather good! It would make your paragraphs that much more pink, which is always a good thing! If you find your trivial powers aren't quite enough and need help making the signature, just ask and I'll assist (if I'm not feeling too lazy, that is)!
I was thinking of making my paragraphs some kind of blue to offset the pink, and make arc 2.0 even better looking than arc 1! That'd be awesome. → Spang ••••••• 04:24, 18 Feb 2007

Yes I think I was the self-appointed guardian of Pink, but I've caught your laziness. I'm sure you are quite right and that all we'd have to do is scroll up and the answers would be there, but meh :)
I'm sure I'll figure something out in the way of a signature, although my earlier dabblings didn't acheive my secret and nefarious goals, so perhaps I just suck at this CSS stuffs.
Blue would be nice, however then we'd really be falling into awful clichededness. Perhaps you could find a nice gender-ambiguous muave, or even puce? Perhaps a shade of olive? Olive is quite nice, although it might not go well with my pink. Better stick with puce. I think I shall change the name of this heading to arc2.0 Yes without a space. I like it that way --Ceridwyn 07:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh dear, I didn't realise my laziness was catching! I'd do something about that, but meh... :)
If it's not above, then it'll be in the archive somewhere... but that clicking as well as scrolling and looking, so I'd probably only do that in the case of some kind of Pink-emergency.
If I see any signature-dabbling, I'll be sure to lend a hand if I can. I sucked at the css stuffs before I came here, and now I'm like the best, ever. So I feel honour-bound to pass on The Knowledge whenever I can!
Ah, I didn't consider the clichédness of the pink/blue combo, I was just thinking of using the blue in my sig. Can't be having with terrible clichés, though, so a different colour it shall be! I'm too tired for colour choosing right now, but later I shall peruse a big colour list to find the perfect one. I'll keep your recommendations in mind though!
Hmmm, arc2.0 without a space? Is omitting spaces a hitherto undiscovered trivial power? Maybe even trifling? :o → Spang ••••••• 04:36, 19 Feb 2007

The blue in your sig IS quite lovely, and might perhaps dispell those pesky rumours of your being a girl :P
No ommitting spaces, as far as I can tell, is not part of my trivial powers, more part of my fleeting whimsy.
Bleuch Ethics class is getting in the way of my arcing =/ --Ceridwyn 21:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Damn, I thought that userbox I made would have convinced anyone beyond their gender-doubting. Damn you, false rumours!
Hmmm, how about this colour? I don't know how well it goes with the pink, but it has the manliest name of any colour I could find: Burly Wood. I don't know if I'll stick with it, but it'll do for now.
Perhaps ethics class can be useful to the arc: I wonder how ethical it would be to retroactively colour all my parts of this arc? I don't know if your class covers arc ethics specifically, but if it doesn't, it probably should. → Spang ••••••• 09:05, 20 Feb 2007

Burly Wood eh? Certainly sounds very manly, however sadly it is quite a hard colour to read =/ Perhaps a darker shade of it? Although bear in mind it is critical to avoid it looking like poo. On that note did you intend to make the pun about "sticking" with it? If not its mightily funny anyway.
My opinion on retroactive arc colouring is that it would be unethical, although under Rawlsian justice theory, those sections of the arc have been under-priveleged or deprived, and should therefore have more given to them to make up for this injustice. Its a heavily debated area of retroactive arc colouration ethics.
Much to my dismay (and yours also I'm certain) my Ethics class is shamefully neglectful of recent retroactive arc colouring theory, almost conspiratorially so I might add. My trival powers fail me as to the correct spelling of the act of being privy to a conspiracy. :( --Ceridwyn 00:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, today's manly-sounding colour is "golden rod". *snicker* It's quite similar to the last one, and maybe easier to read. Though I don't know how well it achieves the "not look like poo" goal. I think it's just enough gold in it to save it. Don't know if I'll keep this one either. I just get distracted by the ones with slightly funny names.
I think it would probably be best just to leave the old ones as they are. It's like history. If I was to start retroactively colouring my arcs, it might start me on a slippery slope, and before I know it everything I ever did would be variously coloured with colours with vaguely amusing names! And that just wouldn't do.
I think it is quite unethical that ethics classes aren't teaching people what they need to know about the modern-day issue of arc-colouring. What kind of world would they have us live in, one without arcs and colours? That's be a terrible place to live indeed. It's obviously a conspiracy - perhaps there ought to be a secret undercover investigation into this... → Spang ••••••• 01:09, 22 Feb 2007

Lol@golden rod, just where is this master list of colours you peruse? I'm not sure which is easier to read tbh, but its probably closer to baby lamb poo yellow than traditional brown, so you are probably safe at the mo.
I definately agree on the anti-retroactive arc colouring stance you are taking, more power to you!
Uggh I started writing this ages ago lol, got distracted. Thats enough from me for one arc segment! --Ceridwyn 10:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Aha, so you want to know the location of my super-secret ultimate list of all HTML colour names, eh? The place where I derive all my (admittedly inferior) arc colouring prowess? Ok. Awesome colour list here!. Today's pick is light sea green. I think it compliments the pink nicely, though it may be getting into the clichédness we were avoiding just a little. Ah well. I had considered "snow" colour at one point, but decided against it. :)
At least it's definitely not poo coloured in any way! Which is always important.
Hmmm, not very many section to go till we're back at the margin... I wonder who is going to win? I have absolutely no idea who it could be! → Spang ••••••• 06:34, 24 Feb 2007

Light seagreen is quite nice actually, and definately well clear of looking like poo! I think the argument that its actually a green, not blue would negate the cliché aspect easily.
As for who is going to win, I suspect I know at this point, although I wonder if the decision to turn back was entirely random or is this somehow rigged? /suspicious
What will the winner receive this time?
Also, this raises an interesting question that I hadn't thought of last arc, once we reach the margin and arc back out again, are we locked into turning at the same point as the last arc, for symmetry's sake, or is each arc another race back to the margin? --Ceridwyn 06:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Well seeing as light sea green is ok, I'll stick with it for now. Also, I'm too lazy to find another good one right now :)
Well, not so much rigged, as come to the conclusion that as long as each person indents or undents by one each time, the winner will always be the same, no matter where it turns back. That's the science of conversation arcs for you. I suppose one could use html/css to do a half indent, but it just wouldn't be quite the same.
Hmmm, I'm not sure what the prize should be... Perhaps whoever is going to lose should think something up soon!
Hmm, I'd say that one should be free to indent or undent at will. Others may feel that a more evenly structured approach would be better, but I say they're living in the past. The past! This is the future, there's no place in these arcs for rules any more. You could even start indenting from the right, or go crazy and indent both sides at once! The possibilities are endless!* → Spang ••••••• 07:10, 26 Feb 2007
*not actually endless

Woohoo! I win! Lets play again! The fun is trying to win when you play ArcConversation™ by Milton Bradley

I think I've figured out the formula for winning, the person who starts the undenting will lose. Always. Although I think this needs stringent testing. Also in the interests of aesthetics, I think if arc2.0 is ever left to die, we cannot let this happen until we reach the lefthand margin again. For example here would be an ok place, but another complete arc first would be preferable.

Not that I think we *should* let it die, its clearly superior to arc1.0 and I accept full responsibility for the expiry of that one, although I have seen the future, and its arc3.0, better, brighter and more colourful! Why we didn't start colouring it earlier I shall never fathom, and although we decided retroactive arc recolouring was inherently evil and wrong, it does somewhat offend my aesthetic sensibilities.

Anyway, I digress, the point here is 'I win', and I want a purty award, akin to the Squid Award, but much more topical to THIS arc (lets look to the present and future not the past after all!) with which to furnish the dusty recesses of my userpage, perhaps something in a tasteful light seagreen? --Ceridwyn 22:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Triumphant Arc Award

Congratulation, you have won the prestigious Triumphant Arc Award!.

Awarded by Spang for being the first back to the margin, impressive
use of colour, and proficiency in the field of arc ethics.

It is awarded only to those possessed of the most advanced
arc-crafting skills known to mankind. You should be proud.

Congratulations! Well done on being first back to the margin, you deserved it. I'm considering another rainbow award, but that might be a bit excessive.

Actually, I think that whoever starts the arc always finishes it. If you think of the person who started it as always having an even number of indents, and the other person having an odd number, you can see that it's a foregone conclusion right from the start. Unless each person uses a different number of indents. Like that game with the conting numbers, that I can't really remember right now.

It's a shame that colouring the old sections would be wrong, but we can look back on them and be thankful we live in more colourful times. Of course it shouldn't be left to die, but I am very intrigued by this arc3.0 you speak of! It sounds brilliant. There was me thinking that this arc was pretty bright and colourful, I can only wonder at the wonders arc3.0 will hold!

For today's arc colour I was going to go a bit darker with normal sea green, but thought it wasn't bright enough. So I went with one slightly brighter than light sea green, medium turquoise. I still like light sea green the best out of my colours here, but I feel I should mix it up a bit. Though most of the colours I find either don't go well with pink, are too blue, or are too poo-coloured. It makes choosing colours quite difficult on occasion.

Anyway, here's to arc2.0, and the future of all arcs! → Spang ••••••• 07:02, 1 Mar 20072

Thank you very much for the award, however it is a bitter sweet triumph because, and I'm almost afraid to utter the words aloud(or typed?) but you forgot to indent! :O
The shock! The horror! I'm nearly speechless! arc2.0 is ruined!!! /sob--Ceridwyn 07:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
No no, it was entirely intentional! It was in fact a sneaky attempt to win the next indenting challenge by being in the "winning" indent position. I've indented this one twice to make up for it. I hope it doesn't just ruin it more... → Spang ••••••• 08:03, 1 Mar 2007

Rofl, I'm not sure I can handle such blatant bending of unwritten arc rules! I'm from the conformist school personally :P And no colour either?! You really are a renegade of arcness aren't you! As for the colour choices, I can see how you've been put in a difficult position, but as they say, um...necessity is the mother of creative arc colouring? >.> Excuse me I think I life the over on.../scuttles away --Ceridwyn 08:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm believer in free arcs, man. Rules are so... not rad. To be honest, I was in such a rush to correct the arc to its former glory that I completely forgot to colour it! Though I also believe that sections of colour should be treated as equally as sections of non-colour. Doesn't mean I'll stop using colours intentionally though! → Spang ••••••• 08:17, 1 Mar 2007

Lol filthy hippy! :P Lol I just realised I wrote "I think I life the over on..." man I must have been tired, was meant to be "I think I left the oven on..." rofl
So whats the buzz around ole uncyc these days? I'm kinda out of the loop now... --Ceridwyn 20:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was also so tired I didn't see that till the second time I read it. I sure it could work as an actual sentence somewhere...
I'm not sure there's much interesting going on now... people making articles, me deleting them, same old same old! Maybe it's time to start making your own loop. I know your forté is arcs, but that might be pretty interesting. → Spang ••••••• 23:43, 2 Mar 2007

I do apologise friend, its been a busy wee while and your last comment threw me for such a loop (oh yes I'm terribly funny!) that I honestly didn't know how to reply!
Loops!? Not arcs?! The possibilities may in fact be endless, if in fact one could figure out where to start! I think thats always my problem, I see the possibilities of the great ball of wool of life but can never unravel it en2ough to find the beginning with which to knit the great jersey of experience!
Excuse the rambling, I've just spent the last hour secreted away in my hallway closet looking through boxes of old sketch books and I feel a bit peculiar!I think I left my brain somewhere near number 5 Memory Lane. You know, the lovely little bungalow on the corner?
Ooooooh I see where the whole loop thing came from now! Very tricksy of you Glittersprinkles!
Wow, my web design tutor would be having absolute conniptions at the deprecated tags I use here!
Anyway Mr. Pinchy dislikes loops and I am bound to his will just now! Good day! --Ceridwyn 00:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Ha ha! I see your joke! Very droll, very droll. :)
Loops... now those are like the future of arcs, maybe one day, we can craft a looped conversation. It would be awesome! But in the mean time, arcs are quite awesome enough, especially this one, which is veritable the very best of all the arcs.
Are you sure looking through these sketch books is entirely safe? You never know, they could be cursed (with two syllables). Ahh, number 5 Memory Lane. I have such fond memories of there. Well, I would, if I hadn't taken a detour through amnesia avenue.
I think I'd be doing your tutor proud - no deprecated HTML tags here! CSS all the way! Even though it does take long22er to type it out this way...
Gasp! Dislikes loops? He must be loopy! → Spang ••••••• 02:47, 9 Mar 2007

I'd use CSS but then it wouldnt be true to the essence of #FF3399 =/
This arc is definately the pinnacle of all arcdom as we know it, I'm not sure about loops, I think its beyond my trivial powers.
Speaking of which I had a wee chuckle to myself in the video shop the other day because one movie (Clerks 2 IIRC) had the line "With no power, comes no responsibility" on it.
Lol at amnesia avenue.
Mr. Pinchy can be quite crabby about things like loops. (teehee!)
So has your flatmate surfaced yet or esconced safely in his room still. What is a sconce anyway? --Ceridwyn 05:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


Hmmm, I think a colour is the same regardless of where it comes from. But maybe that's just the filthy hippy in me talking again.
I don't think we have the advanced technology required for loops yet. But one day in the future... it shall be a reality.
Heh, I think someone's been stealing our sayings! (Never mind that it probably came out before our trivial version)
I've not seen my flatmate yet, but that's mostly because I'm not staying at my flat this week. But he is still replying to his phone, so not all is lost!
According to google, a sconce is a wall-mounted light fixture, very fashionable around the late 17th century. So I'm not sure how exactly that applies in this situation. Perhaps if he were staying in his room in the manner of a wall-mounted lamp. Which might be fun to see. → Spang ••••••• 12:23, 10 Mar 2007

Yes but the essence of Ceridwyn Pink TM is that its a hex colour. To go around using some weird RGB colour would just be wrong wrong wrong! They may look identical to the untrained eye, but I would know, and quite frankly the knowledge would keep me awake at night. In fact, I'm not sure I could live with myself!
Loop technology is certainly a field we should be investigating. I shall watch its developments with great interest! Hopefully there will be some really gripping conferences and workshops on it somewhere exotic that I can be paid to attend by uncyc. In the interests of developing this new technology of course!
We should definately sue Jay & Silent Bob for stealing our completely original and creative saying!!! How dare they!!!
Its when they stop answering the phone that you need to worry. Unless its a highly important raid, in which case its FINE if ppl ignore the phone in order to not interrupt their WoWing. Yeah... >.>
I had a feeling you'd bring up wall-fixtures. I suppose that makes sense. --Ceridwyn

Ah yes, but the wonders of CSS allow hex colours to be used too! Magic! Like the lovely random hex colour picked randomly from template:random colour. But I won't stop you using Ceridwyn Pink™ in any way and in any tags you please!
I think if some kind of loop technology could be devised, here should be one of the very first places for it to be implemented. I too shall be on the lookout for developments. Though I think that attending conferences in exotic locations would interfere with my laziness, unfortunately. Though travelling the world in search of the elusive loop could be pretty fun too!
You had a feeling? So does that mean that you're psychic or that I'm predictable? Or both? I sense that you don't find the subject of wall-fixtures particularly thrilling.
This just in: a sconce could also be a kind of defensive fort, hence, ensconced. It can also mean sense or wit. It's really quite a versatile word. Shame I can't use any of my sonce to make up something clever about it.
Yeah, sometimes real life just gets in the way of important gaming.
Yeah, I'll make sure he doesn't lose himself in the game too much, unless he working on leveling up the character I told him to make, in which case I'll lock him in his room till he's suitably awesome. → Spang ••••••• 03:45, 14 Mar 2007

See, I like the fact that my deprecated tagginess is at least consistant. Whereas you sir have so far alternated btwn font and div tags. Your hippy freeloving tag swinging ways bah! But at least you don't oppress my oldschool ways :) Not sure I approve of this new colour, or are you trying to follow your latest vandal's advice?
Certainly if loop technology breakthroughs are to be had, they will happen right here at Arc Technology Labs.
I suspect it might be a combination of both predictability on your part (not a bad thing) and a touch of psychicness on my part, possibly.
I wouldn't say I don't find them thrilling, just that I was aware that that was really one meaning of the term when I asked what it was anyway, so your initial findings weren't particularly surprising. However these recent unearthings are quite interesting, as much as sconces can be. Really if I were honest though I'd have to admit I find scones more interesting. At least you can eat them.
What character did you tell him to make? It better be a warlock! XD You may have to make use of some kind of feeding tube to provide his RL body with nutrition as the road to Suitable Awesomeness is a long one, fraught with danger! --Ceridwyn 04:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Well maybe it's better to say inconsistent - it keeps your opponent on their toes. Or something. Yeah, I didn't even preview that colour, just copied the first thing that came up. I probably would have chosen a different one if I'd previewed, but then it wouldn't be so random. Back to the tried and tested for now though.
I don't often take advice from my vandals, but I'm still hopeful that one day one will actually vandalise in a nice or useful way. Though they'd be hard pressed to better my userpage in its current form! Speaking of which, I feel it's time a added or changed something, but I don't know what yet.
Hmmm, well I'm working on the predictability with my random colours and inconsistency, but that psychicness is quite a talent!
Ah yes, scones. Those are pretty awesome. And so much better than a sconce could ever be, I'm sure. Aw, now I have a craving for scones, damn you!
I'm not sure, I only specified the name, and that it had to be awesome. Obviously it won't be as awesome as if I had created it myself, but I have faith that it'll be awesome enough. I will suggest warlock, though I may hold out on deciding class until I'm 100% that there won't be a god class in the future. You never know! → Spang ••••••• 05:36, 14 Mar 2007

Well, I've graciously decided to let you win this one, but I'm not certain I'll be able to top your Triumphant Arc award! That reminds me I still have to get that put on my user page :D
It might be nice to see something new on your userpage, though anything radical and you'd have to preserve the original somewhere.
I'm interested to know what name you suggested for him! And as for God class, I'm pretty certain warlock IS it. Although having said that, I'm a bit bored with mine atm, been having a lot of fun on my priest alt. Perhaps its the constant awesomeness, it can get tiring you know.
Sorry this is short and much delayed, you know how I am, all hiss & roar for a while then I just disappear :P --Ceridwyn 21:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

By my calculations, I may still lose :S Though if you think I am going to win, you have plenty of time to think up2 an award!
I'll take that hint and add all your awards to your page somewhere ;)
Oh no, nothing radical, just minor tweaks here and there to keep it up to date! I don't think I could start again with something different now.
The name I suggested was "Mentaldor". It's a bit of an in-joke. I'm not sure the Warlock enough for me. I mean, spells are all well and good, but I don't think I'd settle for anything less than absolute omnipotence from my character! Though I find constant awesomeness a real problem in real life too, it does get a bit repetitive. → Spang ••••••• 16:32, 26 Mar 2007

Well my formula states that you should win, I guess this is the test! Still no award ideas yet =/ Perhaps something with Dylan Moran standing beside an arc wearing a seagreen shirt holding a sign saying "#FF3399" but that might be tricky to arrange. Was he supposed to be also near a squid fuelled fire? I forget.
Clearly one of those "you had to be there" in-jokes ;P So do you know what class he's playing yet? I'm personally taking a wee break atm, too many assignments and too addicted. Need some balance. --Ceridwyn 22:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, time will tell!
That would surely be quite an award to behold! Now I surely will be disappointed by anything less that that, should I win!
He's playing a dark elf druid or priest or something. He can turn into a bear and a cat though, and is level 22. That's about as much as I know. → Spang ••••••• 02:04, 30 Mar 2007

My absence is really just a form of procrastination because I have no idea what to do for an award! Truly >.> Ok not really. I'm just an incredibly slack and terrible person.
Ah night elf druid. Can't say I've ever played once past lvl 12, I hope he enjoys it! I just never found them that appealing. Has he convinced you to start playing yet? --Ceridwyn 23:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't make you a terrible person! Well, it does, but I'm too nice to tell you. I've also heard that, in the same way as those tribes that believe taking someone's picture steals their soul, editing my talk page also steals your soul. So maybe it's a good thing.
Ah, that must be it. He hasn't convinced me yet, as my laptop at my flat is too old to run it in the first place, and playing it seems to take up too much time that I don't have! That valuable time could be spent sleeping, or sitting around doing nothing, and those things are very important to maintain a healthily lazy lifestyle.
Oh, and I still think you're going to win again :P Better start thinking up another award... → Spang ••••••• 04:59, 10 Apr 2007

Well I can't be having my soul stolen now...wait how many edits does it take for it to be stolen completely? I think I'm doomed. Surely no-one else has made quite as many edits as I have. Oh noes =/
Probably just as well that your laptop can't run it. Best to stay clear of temptation. WoW is really horribly addictive and so far apparently humanly impossible to quit. I don't know a single person who has quit for good yet in the 2 yrs I've been playing. They always come back. Myself included, even when you don't really want to. So I suggest not even trying it. Its worse than crack cocaine. Not that I've tried crack but I can imagine...
As for winning, well historical evidence supports my theory. If you aren't too lazy, scroll up and see what I mean. The person who wins is never the person who decides to undent first. In arc1.0 I turned first and you won, in the first loop of arc2.0 you turned and I won... Something to think on. Argg! I'm hastening the process by editting further! I only have 7 more edits in which to come up with an award! /panic!! --Ceridwyn 22:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I can't say for sure... but my soul seems fine, and I'm sure I've edited it a lot too. It wouldn't be that bad though, I imagine it would be on a par with being kidnapped and taken to a magical pixie land full of ice cream and happiness.
Steer clear of temptation I shall then! Unless I find myself with absolutely nothing to do for the next year or so, in which case it might be a possibility. That or crack.
Well then only time will tell! Remember the sooner you edit, the sooner it'll be over. And if you never edit it'll never be over. Though it might never be over anyway. I'm sure there's something Zen in there somewhere. → Spang ••••••• 05:17, 11 Apr 2007

This arc phenomenon is almost worthy of its own webpage IMO. I've been perusing blogs and twitter and such and I sincerely feel there is a place in the greater WWW for beautifully coloured arc conversations.
EEP! Its occurred to me, and I may have counted wrong, but I almost wonder if you might be right about the results of this arc! How can it be so wiley and unpredictable?!
A magical pixie land full of ice cream and happiness 'does' sound rather nice. Ok I'll continue to edit if thats the only consequences.
By all accounts (which I totally made up right then) crack is better for you in the long run.
Those are indeed wise words. I shall meditate on them at length.
Why does the signature have to be two hyphens then four tildes? That seems slightly ridiculous. Perhaps its nearly time for me to work on building my signature?
So I don't usually edit my posts, but Rcmurphy showed me this just before on irc and it raised some interesting questions. Should we allow others to join in the arc so long as they are aware of the few basic rules? It would certainly make for more interesting margin-races. Which got me thinking about arc3.0 I have some ideas about it, and I think we should really start discussing it, for its surely the future of arc technology. --Ceridwyn 00:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, why stop at a webpage? How about a whole shrine to the wonders of the arc! Although nothing else could come close to its actual awesomeness.
Haha! You see my logic now! Oh crap, that means I should be thinking up an award now... damn.
I'll combine the reply to the next two lines into one by saying you should meditate on crack. I don't see what the harm could be.
There is a box in the preferences menu that lets you choose what you want to show as your signature. There's a few help pages lying around that'll tell you how to make an awesome signiture, not sure where they are though. And I could do a thing that changes the two dashes into something else, like one em dash, or nothing if you like. The wonders of technology!
As I said in irc, rcmurphy is evil and has jealously had it in for this arc since it started! But if people want to join the arc, I can't really stop them as long as they know how to do it properly. And use colours that actually work. Part of me favours a private type arc, but I think there might at some point be a need for a multi-user arc. I have no idea if the multi-user version would be even more awesome or a horrible failure... too many cooks and all that! It is not a decision to be taken lightly! → Spang ••••••• 05:19, 13 Apr 2007

So close to the margin now, but I'm still uncertain, however I think you're going to need to get working on that award soon :P
I'm not sure the world of shrines is quite ready for the arc phenomenon yet. But its own website perhaps.
Hmm well all this signature business sounds suspiciously too much like work to me. So meh, prolly wont bother ;P
But if you can make a spiffy thing to do stuff easier that sounds good! XD
Clearly the arc's allure has caught rcmurphy in its spell and he is smitten, sadly this is inevitable because the arc's power is strong.
I think your idea of one private arc and one multi-user arc is a good one. Clearly ppl would have to register and pass some sort of Arc Licencing Test before they can edit it, and the test program would teach them about the proper ways to indent, colour choices etc. It may fail horribly but such is the beauty of the interwebs! It would certainly be an interesting experiment. Clearly it wouldnt be a full release number of the arc, like this one or arc3.0 but it could be arc3.1 or possibly even arc2.2.0?
Certainly something we should consider. Maybe it could have a sandbox section so they can't mess it up too bad to start with. And obviously we'd be there to guide and help them discover the wonders of arcdom.
Surely there would be room for something like this here on uncyc? The tools are all here for us to control it what with you being an admin and all... --Ceridwyn 07:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it's practically certain, barring any catastrophic acts of nature, that you shall be first back to the margin again! Better get thinking.
The sig thing is easy once you get a hang of it! I shall look around for the thing that'll change your two dashes to something else. Any preference? Long single dash? Nothing?
It's true, perhaps one day rc may be able to add to the arc, if he can learn to control his impulses to write in huge letters withthe wrong indentation.
A licence test for adding to the arc is a great idea! It's the perfect way to ensure the arc's greatness for future times to come.
I'm certainly interested in your ideas for arc3, I can harly even fathom anything past 2, so I can't wait to see what the future or arcs holds. Does it involve loops in any way or is that still way in the future?
If there was to be a room it'd probably have to be in someone's subpage or talk page or something. The main forum may seem like a good idea at first, but the masses aren't ready for the wonders of the arc yet, it could confuse them and they just wouldn't know what to do, and it'd all be ruined!
Apologies for taking so long to write this, was distraced by other things that wanted my attention the whole time! → Spang ••••••• 03:05, 14 Apr 2007

Only one undent to go! This is like arc-Christmas! Yipee!!
I always like when the number of colons is few so I don't have to laboriously c&p them on each line. It breaks the flow of my ranting, which is never a good thing.
Does this dash changing thing remove the need for the tildes also? I just find having to type 6 characters a bit well, OTT. I know I can push the sig button, but I prefer to type things by hand, being the budding code monkey that I am. I don't really have any strong preferences at this stage as to what characters I'd prefer to type, just LESS.
Well your nom for UotM looks like its going well, naturally I put my vote in, once I'd 'heard' about it that is. How come you never mentioned it?
You must marvel at Rc's enthusiasm though. His efforts put me in mind of an exhuberant but wayward youth, trying to roll with the big kids. At least he did attempt to use colour, albeit garish and well, overlooking the fact that it didn't work. I think you are correct, in time he may show great potential. As we discussed yesterday arc3.1 may just offer him the place to flourish, after he graduates from the test and of course, arc3.0.1 aka the beginner's slope.
Yes I certainly didn't intend to unleash it on the main namespace, as you have mentioned the world isn't ready for arc3.0 yet. I'd offer my subpages but lets face it, you're far more popular (and clearly world famous, barring the ignorance of my friend) so it would get more exposure here. Perhaps if it took off then one day it could migrate to a place of its own.
Don't feel the need to apologise, I just get awful demanding when I'm going insane from boredom. I need more projects to busy myself with since I quit WoW. I'm like the workoholic who goes into retirement but doesn't know what to do with themselves so they meddle.
Well here they go again, those cursed dashes and tildes >.< --Ceridwyn 00:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, feels weird doing only one indent! I liked typing lots of colons, I had got really good at getting just the right number in one go too!
Yeah, I almost fixed it and it worked for a while, but now it doesn't :( Oh well. In a while I'll get the code to make your timestamp pink and only have to use ~~~ to insert your sig. Hooray!
You never asked! Well that and I tend not to whore myself for awards I'm up for (mostly because I'm never up for any awards)
Rc's got a way to go, and despite his denials on irc, it's obvious he wants to join in. I don't see how anyone could not want to join in! In time he and others will have the tools and training necessary to join in, and everyone will be happier for it.
Well I don't really mind where it's at either, but it'll have to start off small first anyway, so anywhere will do really.
Nah, I like to apologise often just in case. As I always say, you're better sorry than unsafe.
Oh crap, only one line to go before I have to think of a new award :s → Spang ••••••• 05:33, 15 Apr 2007

Drumroll please! dnl-dnl-dnl-dnl-dnl-dnl!DN!BOOM!-CCCSSHH!

Oh yeah, thats right, two in a row baby. I'd like to thank my parents and my manager and all the wonderful ppl in #uncyclopedia who distracted me while I should have been doing assignments, and of course, the person without whom this would not have been possible Rcmu- *cough* I mean, Spang!

Well, I'm a bit overcome really, I didn't prepare a speech or anything *unfolds giant piece of paper* this is just such a surprise! It was such an honour just to be nominated...yeah ok I'm done :)

WOOOHOOOOO!!! I WIN I WIN I WIN!!!! ok now I really am done. Promise. Ok just one more,

YIPEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/me waits for her award :) --Ceridwyntalk contribs arc2.0. 06:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Arctic Arc Award

Hooray! You are the winner of the Arctic Arc Award!.

Awarded in recognition of the fact that you make the
coolest arcs around, and also have a very cool signature.

It is awarded only to those who create arcs with
extreme levels of cool. You should be proud.

Hooray for you! You win an award! Ignore the fact that it over-relies on a single pun! Hooray! → Spang ••••••• 04:46, 16 Apr 2007

Yay! Thats a gorgeous award! Thank you!!!! :D I must get those moved to my user page sometime :) I'm considering breaking the VoNSE in order to revamp it but tbh that sounds like an awful amount of effort required!
Squeee!! that wee penguie is so cute XD Oh and I thought of a wee update for your user page. Lemme know what you think >:D
Steelblue huh? That is possibly one of the more readable colours you've chosen thus far in arc2.0 :)
I'm still super excited about my signature. I must go around posting on the forums more so everyone notices >:D And I figured out how to put the (UTC) back in but I rather think I won't. Its not necessary.
That reminds me, I'll have to add that award to mah sig too!
Well I spose I'd better hop to and do some work on these dratted DFDs :*( -- Ceridwyntalk contribs arc2.009:42, 16 April 2007
You are most welcome indeed! Yes, the penguin is rather cute, although being as manly as I am, I much prefer fast cars and explosions and stuff.
I do agree steel blue is a rather good colour. I may use it more often, clichés be damned! Yeah I find the small timestamps much better. The normal ones just seem too large and too long in comparison.
Yes, I keep meaning to add the awards to your page, but I always seem to forget! I'll remember to do it one of these days. But any major reworking of your userpage will probably require you to do it, or give detailed instructions for how you want it to look. I think my original page was the best though, obviously!
What's a DFD? Is that the report thing? Well good luck with it, whatever it is. → Spang ••••••• 05:53, 17 Apr 2007

Ohh I see we went with a div this time. fancy ;P I'd try CSS if I weren't so lazy, I've been learning a bit of the basics.
Of course, cars and explosions are far more manly than cute penguins, or KITTENS for that matter.
Sorry, you didn't honestly think I'd get through a whole edit without mentioning the tiny terror now ruling my life?!
I habs moar pics I'll have to show you sometime XD Its good fun putting captions on them to create our own cat pics. I've emailed them with our versions :) Guna be famous XD
Thank you again for adding all my lovely awards to my page :) Its nice to have it updated!
Your original page? You mean the one with just the randomly coloured ellipses? Yeah that was pretty good but it is nice having a bit more info on it ;P One day I'd like it to be all funny and look like something else but for now I'm happy with the basics.
The whole assignments thing has slowed down even worse now that this little kitten refuses to be quiet unless he's curled up on me sleeping, preferably being petted the whole time too. Makes it rather difficult to try and type a lot, but if he's gonna take up permanent residence on me he'd better get used to typing in a hurry. I do a lot of it. -- Ceridwyntalk contribs arc2.001:35, 19 April 2007
Yes indeed, divs and CSS are the wave of the future! font tags are so yesterday.
I'll look forward to seeing those pictures! Although good luck getting famous with cat pictures, I could hardly get a quarter way thourough before skipping to the end! There must be millions of them.
You're welcome, I'm suprised I actually ever got round to doing it, it only took me almost a month from first "getting the hint".
What can I say, I like simplicity. And you know when they say, Brevity is wit. You could change the direction of your assignment to "how can I make my uncyclopedia user page look the best". A worthy topic if ever there was one!
Kittens are fun though. You could build him some sort of hammock you can attach to yourself. I was always a cat person, I just don't get dogs. We've been meaning to get a cat/kitten for a while, but never got round to actually getting one. If you ever get bored of it, just get it to swim over here and I'll have it! → Spang ••••••• 05:15, 20 Apr 2007

Woohoo, we've cracked the 45 kilobyte mark. And thus, our arc becomes doubly-goaled!
I agree regarding CSS however that doesn't change the fact that I am, as I'm sure you can sympathise, horribly lazy. Til I experiment with hex colours in a non-deprecated tag I'm just sticking with reliable ole 'font'.
No word yet on the cat pics front, they have yet to respond to my email or update their site with what will obviously be the foremost cat pictures ever seen. A little kitten waits.
There are a few pics on my blog if you still have the link, and oodles more (generally depicting some cute act by the kitten, but not all necessarily that good in the photographic department) on my photobucket which I can link to ya.
A hammock idea had occured to me also, however shes getting past the "I want to spend every moment attached to you in some way" and is now progressing to "I want to scratch and bite you whenever I'm not sleeping, eating or chewing cables" so perhaps its best we leave that idea in the probably-not basket.
As for swimming to Scotland, she *is* rather comfortable in the bath, so if I do ever get tired of her (probably related to the whole scratching/biting passtime I'd imagine) I'll be sure to point her vaguely northwards. And sort of 'around' the whole Europe thing.
Anyhoo the assignments are calling! Adieu --Ceridwyntalk contribs arc2.004:18, 23 April 2007
Yeah, it won't be long now before people start complaining that I should archive my talk page! If it were up to me completely, I would never archive any of it.
I did see the cat pictures from your blog thing, it's very cute :) Makes me want my own kitten. You may link your photobucket if you like, pictures of cute kittens never get old!
Cool, let me know if you do start her swimming, I'll be sure to look out for her.
Oh and I apologise for almost stealing your colour here, I was experimenting with colours and thought this one was too "fab" to pass up! → Spang ••••••• 12:27, 23 Apr 2007
Wow that is indeed a "fab" colour!
I can understand their crys for archiving when I try to scroll all the way to the bottom of this arc, but I can hardly complain since arcing is our want. On the other hand I suppose since its not their want then perhaps they have a right to complain.
Anyway, we could probably arc elsewhere, but lets leave that for arc3.0. Its nice to have the arc here so everyone can see it ^_^
I'll have to clean up my photobucket first before I link it, but I will soon I promise XD
And I'll be sure to let you know if/when I send the kitten your way!
In the meantime perhaps though you might want to look into obtaining a kitten of your own. I dont see me wanting to part with her anytime soon :P Then we can have "cute-offs" and pit them against each other in a battle of cuteness!
Check me out being all CSSy and stuffs XD Ceridwyntalk contribs arc2.010:25, 23 April 2007
Wow, check out the divs on that! Welcome to the future!
Well in most cases people have a right to complain about stuff they don't like, unless you're trying to complain about me, in which case they are automatically wrong.
Here's just fine for now. Not just because the "you have new messages" box. Well, ok, it is just that. But my talk page wouldn't be the same without it.
One day, I shall obtain a kitten of my own. And it will be the best kitten there ever was, and ever will be. No offence to your Jezebel, but my kitten's awesomeness would be off the scale. → Spang ••••••• 07:00, 26 Apr 2007
Indeed, what a knockout pair of divs. Phwoar! I almost never see the you have new messages box, it takes me by surprise when I do. Its true though, what would User_talk:Spang be without arc2.0? Well about 49 kilobytes smaller. Buh-dum-boom-chh!
So is my sig really that bad? :( I thought the all pink really gave stealing Ghelae's sig a whole new dimension ^_^
I'd like to see this imaginary kitten of yours try and beat mine, she's getting pretty darned cute these days. XD
Anyway, I'm off to eat cake! (its mah birfday :D ) Byee! Ceridwyntalk contribs arc2.0 02:50, 28 April 2007
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I was going to, but slept instead. Did you get nice presents?
Indeed, them there's some divs to brag about! Ok I'll stop now.
Well I'll be sure to leave you messages on your talk page every so often then. But that may lead to an unmanageable threads of conversation. Not that I can't multitask, it just involves the exact amount of effort that my sophisticated laziness seems to want to avoid.
Well obviously the pinkness is good as always, but I've always found that style too... loud for my liking. You can see it from webpages three miles away! But I can't stop you if that's what you want!
Well I think my imaginary kitten has the advantage as it isn't bound by the rules of reality!
Well enjoy... I mean, I hope you enjoyed your cake! → Spang ••••••• 06:21, 30 Apr 2007
THANK YOU!!! :) Fair enough, sleep is very important!
You don't have to leave me messages, I generally check my watchlist more than my talk page so its fine :P
It is loud yes, but I felt it was time to be a bit more visible and active around uncyc, so I think its fitting. Its less jarring on the eyes than some sigs though. Its just a phase really :) I'm sure it will pass!
Hmmm good point. Not being bound by the rules of reality MAY give your imaginary kitten some advantage, but does he/she/it have badges created in its likeness? I think not.
Indeed, sleep is of the utmost importance.
Yeah, watchlists are cool, but you don't get a fancy box telling you when it's changed! I suppose it might be more exciting if it happens less often though.
Well I suppose it isn't the worst sig, maybe it's just because I prefer subtlety over loud brightness (except when it comes to arcs) :P Though speaking of sigs, I see you forgot to put yours in the last message... tut tut! Though I suppose any message in that pink doesn't need to be signed really :)
Aw damn, actual badges are way cooler than imaginary badges :( Do you wear those around the place? Heheheh. That's cool.
This is also a pretty cool colour. Heheheheh :) → Spang ••••••• 03:46, 02 May 2007
Ahem whoops, I wrote that one in a rush IIRC, I was on my way to a job interview. To which I was subsequently late, because of that post. However I got the job nonetheless, which goes to show, you can post in your arc and eat... erm yeah.
Yeah I do wear them around, although I forgot to put them on today because they are still in my scanner >.>
That is a pretty cool colour indeed. Its no Ceridwyn Pink TM but its pretty cool.
I can't think of much to say right now, I'm sitting in Accounting class feeling my brain literally liquifying.
52 kilobytes now ^_^
Edit because I just can't wait til my next turn to tell you this, Dylan Moran is doing a show here in town in a fortnight! Looks like I'll see him before you! I'll have the sign etc ready for the grand photo taking! Ceridwyntalk contribs arc2.0 04:02, 02 May 2007
Congratulations! I'm willing to stake my reputation on the fact that it was because of the arc you got the job. Ignore the fact that I don't actually have a valid reputation to stake.
I think you may have missed the point of my colour choice... it's more to do with the hex code for it that the actual colour. :) Like this similar one.
Heh, it's growing all the time, and one day, the arcs will account for most of the content on uncyclopedia's servers! That'll be a good day.
Heh, cool, you should have a great time, he's very funny! Turns out he actually lives in Edinburgh though, so maybe I could see him before you if I find out where he lives and stalk him. Probably too lazy to do that though :) → Spang ••••••• 07:30, 04 May 2007
Its most definately because of the arc that I got the job :P
Heh I hadn't looked at the hex codes, but thats pretty funny! XD How long did those take you to figure out?
I look forward to that day for certain. T'will be a marvel to behold.
I doubt you'll see him before me though, the show is in 2 wks, so most likely he's touring around other places one would imagine. And yeah, you are much to lazy to do that just to beat me at seeing a man from opposite sides of the world. I doubt theres even an award for that. Perhaps we should make one. Especially if he ISN'T touring, because then we have fairly even chances of winning! I hope it will be a good show, I'm sure it will be. So 'cited!!! XD
Oh, did you see my spleen?! O_O I was most surprised by it! Surely my trivial contributions don't warrant that! Ceridwyntalk contribs arc2.0 08:35, 04 May 2007
Hopefully it'll help me on that front now too, seeing as I'm looking for a job now too. I forgot to put my arc skills on my CV though, so I may have ruined my chances already. :(
Didn't take any time at all, I just had to think up words that had letters 1 - F in, no problem!
Yes, I saw your spleen, it's icky. Oh, you mean the award? Yeah, saw that too. Congratulations! Well I'm sure you deserve it. With the non-voting awards, basically all you have to do it have someone think you deserve it and give it to you, and hey presto, award! Maybe it's because these days everyone's just used to giving out their own awards, people don't gie awards as often as they used to. → Spang ••••••• 12:51, 06 May 2007
Never fear, arc skills are plain to see for the trained interviewer. If the job is right, they'll be able to spot your vast arc experience a mile away. /crosses fingers for you, best of luck!
Well it was very clever, it never occured to me. Of course, I don't have to think up new and exciting colours each time so perhaps I'm not pushing my creative envelope far enough.
Eeep you saw my real spleen! Thats scary and creepy in many ways :P I'm sure Olipro would read something into that. Curse him. Anyway, yeah I know that its just handed out but I was surprised anyone noticed me. I guess the giant pink boxes is a bit of a give away. I find them useful to ensure that I've voted on everything. I just blur my eyes and scroll quickly down the VFD/VFH page and make sure I see the pink boxes, the voices say that I'm allowed to sleep.
I suppose I'll take your pointing out the irony of whoring something on my own user talk page as an invitation to whore it up a bit here, at least its somewhere else. Though I'm not certain people take the time to read all of arc2.0 these days. Anyway: User:Ceridwyn/Proofreading Service User:Ceridwyn/Proofreading Service User:Ceridwyn/Proofreading Service. So far business is quiet but going well. Two customers that appear to be satisfied which is nice :D
Well, should really do some work! Ceridwyntalk contribs arc2.0 11:11, 06 May 2007
That's good then. I knew the arc would come in handy for something other than making my talk page look cool!
Yes, it is rather difficult thinking up new colours that are also good! I've resisted resorting to using {{random colour}} so far. I think this was in fact the hardest colour to come up with yet! It took ages! I might be lying!
Well then it might be appropriate, giant pink boxes gets you a giant purple blob in return. I'm sure it make some kind of sense, somewhere.
Feel free to whore it all you like, but remember to always be safe when whoring. I probably don't need it myself, as my spelling and grammar are naturally impeccable, aside from punctuating lists properly. But that's an iffy area anyway :)
When I get round to writing more articles (I have a couple of ideas floating around) I'll be sure to drop it in. Though you may well spell check it anyway, you seem to have done most of my other articles :) → Spang ••••••• 02:55, 09 May 2007
Wow, the page now suggests that it might be helpful to archive the arc. Its under attack from all sides!!! Vigilante arc justice shall be doled out!
I dunno, I think we might be entering a whole new era in arc colouration...
Did you do the spelling error on purpose then? Because if not, its very hilarious. I've resisted editing it so that you can see the error of your ways. Well ok, I have corrected it twice thus far then managed to undo it before posting.
Heh I think I've only edited the water powered bus of yours that I know of anyway, I tend to only encounter pages if they are on VFH these days and those certainly keep me out of trouble. The amount of articles on there with spelling errors gives me the chills frankly. And you are generally very impeccable with your spelling so it wouldn't give me a lot to do! Aside from that one typo in the above post...
I had an idea for an article today but I'm not sure I'd have the expertise to write it yet, but if done correctly it would be just darn hilarious. Doubt I'd have time though, writing Kralnor took me 3 solid days 9-5 to complete and I just don't have days off like that anymore.
Speaking of big pink blobs, you haven't mentioned my more elegant new signature! How rude! Especially after you and Famine guilted me into changing it. At least he complimented the new one, albeit backhandedly. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0